as he traveled on foot between towns and greeted voters. mr. alexander finished third in the state's primary with television commentator pat buchanan winning the contest. kansas senator bob dole received the republican presidential nomination. before we join mr. alexander on his walk, a look at his first political ad in new hampshire. >> the experts said he would never win. then he walked 1,000 miles across a state, bringing people together and became the governor who cleaned up corruption in tennessee. lamar alexander, a record from outside washington. a conservative governor who balanced eight budgets, kept taxes the fifth lowest of any state, reformed education, bro ugt in the auto industry and later helped found a new business that now has 1,200 employees. lamar alexander, governor, businessman, education secretary. a republican running for president from the real world. >> i'm coming to new hampshire

this summer to get to know you. the answer isn't in washington, it's in our churches, family, neighborhoods and schools. it's about growth and job mps freedom from big government and a lot more personal responsibili responsibility. i'm lamar alexander. let's get to know each other. and then let's get about the business of helping america aim for the top. >> recently, lamar alexander visited the granite state to begin what he's calling his walk across new hampshire. on july 6, he started this campaign swing during which he'll eventually walk from concord to nashua and finally portsmouth, new hampshire by the middle of february 1996, finishing just before this state holds its first in the nation primary. on july 7, the tennessee republican spent the second day of his walking tour, making his

way south from pembrook between two towns located between concord and manchester. >> how are you all? lamar alexander. are you going walking with us? >> no, i think i'll watch. >> how are you, sir? may i gf you one of these? >> thank you. this is for -- what this is -- yesterday i walked from concord to penbrook. i did it. i came right here yesterday when i stopped. i don't want anybody to think i'm taking rides. so i'm starting at this spot. >> very good. and then i'm going to walk seven miles. what i'm trying to do is

introduce myself to the people in new hampshire. seems like this makes a lot more sense than anything else i could think of. yesterday esche worried about my shirt. they thought it was too hot. but i was sweating less than they were. this is a cotton shirt. and the day i -- yesterday was the 17th anniversary of the end of my walk across tennessee. i did that 17 years ago to run for governor. i walked 1,000 miles. when i walked into memphis, it was 106 degrees. >> a guy from florida did what you did. we see him everywhere. >> is that right? >> we had a fellow who was going to walk from atlanta. he started in atlanta and disappeared. so it doesn't always work. >> how many are going today.

>> i work at the state house. i work for the speaker of the house. >> let's get down the ro ed. >> i'm not going yet. >> i would rather live in a small town than a big city. too many things going on in the big city while the small towns, you know each other's. it's a lot of fun.

>> morning. glad you're out. >> how are you, sir? >> i'm going to send this to my brother in indiana. >> how about you? >> okay, okay. thank you. >> is grand mason a new hampshire name? >> yes, it is. >> every grand mason is here>> it's a french name. there's a lot around. >> an independent also. >> hi. i'm lamar alexander. good to see you. i would like to be your next president.

>> i just got back from your home state in tennessee. >> i'm from maryvail. >> did you fly or drive? did you enjoy it? >> i had a great time. >> was dolly there? >> i was governor of tennessee when she opened that and she had me come over for the opening. there i was, dolly parton and the governor.

people were saying governor, would you move out of the way so we could see dolly? >> so you do eight miles a day? >> yeah, 40 miles a week. >> can i give you one of these? >> sure can. >> i'm walking all the way to the city. my way of getting to meet people. >> get a break along the way? >> i take a lot of breaks. i just walk walk for two or three days at a time. then i put an x down and then i come back to that in a couple of weeks and keep going. >> nice to meet you. good luck. >> you don't look like new hampshire voters. hello, mike. i missed you yesterday. >> what goes on here now?

>> i'm one of the people who lives and works in new hampshire. small business in the area. >> your boots are actually pretty good. >> i wore them yesterday. >> good morning, i'm lamar alexander. i would like to be your next president. i'm walking across new hampshire. what's your name? >> pete fisher. >> i have one of these on my door. i would like to ask you a few questions if you don't mind. >> that's what i'm here for. >> you're republican? >> republican.

>> governor of tennessee? >> right. >> where do you stand as far as religion involved in the politics goes? you have pete like pat robertson running for president. do you think that religion and politics should be combined? >> well, i think they're separate businesses. but i think the biggest problem we have in the country is the break down of family. it's hard to talk about that without talking about families, neighbors, churches and schools and their strengths. i'm trying to not just talk about jobs or national defense or getting washington out of the way. what i'm talking about is strengthening the basic institutions, personal responsibility. that's where the focus ought to be. and when you talk about personal responsibility, most people get their values from their religion. they have a lot of different religions.

>> so your own stance, you believe that god is involved in running this country? >> i believe that this is a nation under god. we start the da i in the united states senate with a prayer. the supreme court starts the day god save this honorable court. believes -- well, most of us get our values from our religious believes, although there are lots of different kinds of religious believes. and i believe it's the president's job to talk about personal responsibility and remind people to do that. we don't want an established religion in the country. and i think most people get skiddish when politicians begin to sound more like preachers. so i think you have to be very careful about crossing that line. >> i would agree with that. >> this is a beautiful town, isn't it? >> oh, yes, gorgeous.

>> i was really surprised by the number of people who said they had seen the television ads. >> amazing. >> this is a political place. >> i've done a study on this. and every town in america, there's a place like this. it's true.

>> isle ask you this. let's say somebody waved a magic wand. and you find yourself sitting in the white house right in front of the president and you could tell him one thing to do or not to do what would that be? >> balance the budget. >> balance the budget? >> exactly. balance the budget. it would be nice if we had it the way it was, huh? >> which way? >> back in the old days. when we didn't spend more than we brought in. >> i would say get government out of the family business and let family and parents take over taking care of their kids so that we we can get the family unit back and the same old america we had years and years ago. a strong family unit and all the legislation is destroying it.

>> that's another biggest problem, isn't it? the break down of the family. that's what i think. and people tell me that. i think everybody agrees with that. they're a little careful about what you do with that. they don't want someone from washington fixing it even worse, but that's the problem. >> i think if to we fix the family unit, the rest of the problems we'll work through. >> nobody said jobs. >> that's a big issue as well. >> i don't think given high-paying jobs oit of this country for low-paying jobs is the answer to keep the country strong. but i don't know the answer what

to do about it? >> if you get jobs, strong defense, jobs, washington, freedom from personality responsibility. those four things. pretty well sum it up. >> i've got to go. >> yes, sir. >> i want the next president to -- >> i'd like to do that. tell me your name. >> trippy. >> what's your first -- >> dick. >> dick trippy. >> yes. >> do you need an extra pair of sneakers? >> i've got some dexter boots. >> okay. >> they've got a dexter outlet store. i was looking around for boots that were made in the united states and it's getting hard to find. >> that's right. i think there's one left, isn't

there? >> dexter. i hope dexter does. at least that's what it says. this is july the 7th, right? >> that's right. >> great. thank you, dick. i'm glad to see you. >> my pleasure. >> you know what this reminds me of? there used to be a little place in new york city in greenwich village where i went to law school called the bagel. and everybody would go in there and we'd cram it full. it was just a little longer than this but it was about the same width. my favorite place to go. for saturday morning breakfast. >> you see, i'm the minority. see, i'm the only italian in town. so i'm a novelty. that's why you come over here. >> i'll see you later. oh. how are you? i was in getting all the advice that i'll ever need. >> i know. that place -- >> i'm lamar alexander.

>> i know. i see you on tv, and i saw you play the piano. >> oh, you did? what did you think of it? >> very well. you do very well. i play but not as good as you. >> well, do you teach or do you just -- >> no, i just play. for my amusement. >> what do you play? >> everything. classical, popular. everything. >> who taught you how to play? >> how are you? >> doing well. >> do you live right here? >> yes, i do. i was just telling one of your friends that we've been here about 25 years but prior to us moving here the previous owner said that john f. kennedy was in the house and they asked -- he was running then for president or something, and they asked him if they'd leave the house so he can make a telephone call or something like that. >> they ran everybody out of the house so he could make a call? >> yeah. so the bedroom. right. they told us they were happy about that. so he said if you make out as well as he did you'll be okay.

>> i hope so. >> lamar alexander. >> hi. i'm stella block. >> what is that? >> it's the seniors. we meet every friday. we have about 60 people. and we enjoy, it right? >> yes, yes. >> do you have a program? >> yes. during the summer, like vacation. >> a teacher. >> you're a teacher? >> librarian. excuse me. >> we have a new name for librarians now. some kind of fancy word. >> audiovisual. but i'm retired for two years. >> were you a teacher? >> no. i work for the -- >> she was a good bookkeeper. >> can i ask you a question? >> yes. >> it will be a short question. i went in there and asked this question of all these men so, i'll ask you. if you were sitting right in front of the next president of the united states and you could tell him one thing to do or not do that would be important to you for this country, what would it be? >> well, naturally i'd say,

lamar, please don't cut back on the seniors. that's the future president, right? lamar. don't cut back on the seniors' medicare. you know, the -- >> you've heard what they're saying in washington. >> there are pros and cons. >> about the fact it's going to go brumt in a few years unless some changes are made. what advice would you have about that? how do you feel about that? >> i truly don't think it's going to be bankrupt. i really think that having the financial experts, i think it's a scare that they do every once in a while. well, nice meeting you. and i'll tell the seniors. dot roby, have you heard about it, the grocery store? >> no. but i might find out about it today. >> which way are you going? >> straight down. >> you won't pass it. >> what is that? >> betty, nice to see you.

>> same here. good luck. and this is my mom. >> where do you live? right here? >> with my daughter. and bob is my son. >> were you the one that was there when kennedy came in? >> no. >> that was prior to us moving here. >> we moved in after that. the people that he stopped here. >> good to see you. thanks very much. >> yeah. >> good morning. good to see you. >> it's good to see you. >> thanks for being here. let me see if we can cross.

>> folks are there. >> hello. >> a lot of local brick in this area years ago. >> you mean like in that house? >> new hampshire has more little towns. everything is small here. churches are small. the church last night, i think the minister where i stayed was the third largest presbyterian church. it has 300 people. >> most of them are very small.

>> good morning. >> well,8>&ç we know what to doh the checkbook. >> the check bounced. >> okay. go ahead. >> good morning. how are you, sir? i'm lamar alexander. glad to see you walking along. >> thank you. tell me your name. >> ed gould. >> do you live right here? >> i do. >> great. i'd like to be your next president is my goal. >> i like your attitude. mind's not made up yet, but if

you do get there i'm interested in your position on taxation. are you interested in continuing the system we have or do we have a flat tax situation with you? >> i'm on the flat tax side. i think we need a fair, flatter, simpler federal income tax. >> simpler is obviously a good direction. >> well, that's true. but the goal should be savings and investment. we need to create more of that. that helps pro jobs. that's my view. jack kemp is working with a v w group to look at the flat tax and see what some principles are republicans ought to be advocating next year. i think that's a smart way to go about it because anytime you want to make a big change in the tax structure you need to do it carefully, you need to look forward, not do it retroactively. and you need to think about what you're doing. i mean, when i was governor of tennessee i looked at a lot of different tax reform ideas. he wouldn't change anything in the end. because we found out two things. one is that the same people pay

the taxes under almost every system as people who work. and second, things that look good at the front end might not look so good at the back end. so i want to make sure i know what the flat tax does, for example, to a small business before i come out with a final plan instead of a national tax. what's your view? >> simpler is the long term. most of the people who are interested in taxes are interested in seeing that everybody pays their fair share. and the difficulty is that unfortunately no people realize of 1% of our people who are ultra super wealthy pay almost 25% of our income tax and they keep saying they don't pay enough. i'm not one of those 1%. i'm the other 1%. but the point i'm making is i don't think the government is making it clear to people where their taxes are coming from. and if they would show more

graphics about who's pak what amount of money from what demographic sketch they need it would be fine. but i wish you luck. i won't take any more of your time. >> that's fine. >> that's one of our main interests i think is to find out where our taxes are going. and good luck to you. >> the reason it's an interest for me is i know the president can do maybe two or three things. not more. really. to change the country. and the most important thing to do i think would be to help create the largest number of new jobs. and the thing that would probably make the most difference in that is to change the tax structure. that's where i'm coming from. >> good to he sue. and don't work these people too hard. >> they're in the best of shape.

>> have to be a little more careful here. people come in and pick their own, right? >> yes, sir. >> is that what people are doing there? >> yep. >> and how many acres do you have of strawberries? >> actually, i'm not quite sure. but i know we have seven fields. >> do you have blueberries too? >> no. >> all strawberries. and how long is the strawberry crop in? two, three weeks? >> it's about four already. >> so it's been in about four weeks. >> about that. >> these are wonderful. do i owe you something for them? >> oh, no, no. >> thank you very much for the strawberries. >> you're welcome. >> it's nice to see you. i'm going to eat them -- i may eat them all, not share one of them. thank you. bye. >> they're really fresh. from tennessee? what are you doing here?

lamar alexander. >> melissa. >> hi. i can tell where you're from. >> bill bowser. >> where do you live? >> i live in tennessee, in dyersburg. i lived here till i was 15. >> are you from dpooiersburg? >> born and raised. >> are you up to visit for a while? >> yeah. >> were you in tennessee when i walked across the state? >> when was that? >> 1978. >> she was. i wasn't. >> you were awfully young then. i walked all the way from east tennessee to memphis where -- >> pretty. >> it was pretty. it was very pretty. i'm trying to do the same thing here. walking from concord down to portsmouth. >> pretty too. >> were you just driving by? >> yeah, we were just driving by. we said that can't be the same alexander from tennessee. >> yeah, it is. >> fishing.

>> rainbow trout? >> yeah. >> they don't have brook trout, do they? >> fufrt north they do. >> do you fly fish? >> i fly fish. >> i just caught my first one today. >> it's fun, right? it's not easy. fly fishing isn't easy. >> no, it isn't. >> in the smokies the brook trout have been pushed way back up in the highest streams by the rainbows. you've got to know what you're doing to get the brook trout. >> i didn't catch any. >> some guys i know toss it right in, pull them right out. this works in teb ten junnessee well as it does in new hampshire. good to meet you. >> here. how about a strawberry? would you like a fresh strawberry? >> thank you very much. >> i was eating one of them. don't get the one i was eating. >> just point and shoot. cheapest camera you can find. >> they have the strawberry festival.

i've been there at least 15 times. enjoyed every minute of it, of course. humboldt. you were probably in the parade, weren't you, one time? >> i twirled a baton. >> see, i knew it. let me get a good strawberry. thanks for stopping. i can tell you're a celtics fan. >> very much so. >> i will. >> i've eaten most of that one. >> i'm not taking that one. i'm going around it. >> a little bit tackier. gene, would you like one that's not eaten?

that young lady twirled a baton in the strawberry festival in tennessee. >> really? >> yeah. that's what she -- may i say hello? how are you? oh, you are? i'm lamar alexander. it's cotton. that's what everybody says. but it's cotton. and it's cool. >> that's good. >> that's the major issue, i think, of the walk. >> i give you a for effort. >> good. what is your name? >> my name is. [ inaudible ] >> nice to know you. >> nice to meet you. >> i saw you in the door. are you feeling better? >> yes. >> excuse all my friends.

they follow me around. see you later. hello there. how are you? it's nice to see you. >> this is my best friend charlie. >> charlie? >> charlotte. >> charlotte. that's your best friend. and who are all these other people? >> that's lola. >> and quinn. >> so you know everybody's name?

>> yeah. >> how old are you? >> i'm 4 1/2. >> 4 1/2. >> it's almost my birthday. my birthday's in july. >> my birthday was july 3rd. i was 55. can you imagine being 55 years old? >> it's almost my birthday. and my birthday's on july 15th. >> you'd make a good politician. you just give the same answer to every question. you might be elected president. >> yeah. you might be president someday, you guys. you want to say hi? >> hi. >> you know what i'm doing? i'm walking across new hampshire. what do you think of that? seems like a long way. how are you? lamar alexander. >> i'm sura susic. >> hi, sara. is this kindergarten? >> this is a preschool group. and we have a kindergarten and daycare center and afterschool

program. the rest of the kids are on a field trip. this is my co-worker. >> who sponsors this? is it a private -- >> it's federally funded. united way agencies. >> thank you for waiting. we're going as fast as we can go by foot. it's a little hard to speed up. >> yes. and everybody stopping you. >> no, that we like. thank you. would you children like a brochure to read? >> give to your mommies and 2k5di2k5 daddies. >> how about this? tell them someone came walking by. >> can you say thank you? >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i've gotten several. would you like one? there -- it's cotton. hello there. excuse me. >> thank you. >> you're welcome. what good manners. here, dear. would you like one of these? >> can you say thank you, hon? >> what is your name? nice to see you.

>> she's from africa. learning the english. >> she doesn't speak english yet. >> oh, she doesn't? she's learning the language. >> yes. >> isn't she pretty? >> she knows four or five languages. spanish. french, i know. and swa hooeli. >> did swahili. >> did i forget you? >> thank you. >> you're welcome. i'm sorry. i'm glad you reminded me of that. i would have felt bad about it. so would you it looks like. good-bye. >> good luck to you. >> let's do a nice wave. >> good-bye. study very hard. read your books. listen to music. >> you can?

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>> good for you. that's a real commitment. >> there's something i'd like to talk to you about. >> okay. walk closely with me because there's a lot of trucks coming. [ honking ] sure. hi there. okay. let me pull right up in front. >> [ inaudible ]. rights of the children. government defense. and the department of education. and in this magazine we've been told about these things. and how they're going to affect the family and how they're going to affect home schoolers. and i'd like to know your -- what you think of each of these topics and how they're going to affect this. >> let me start with home schooling. i think home schooling is very

important. i think you have a right to do it. i think you're going commended for doing it. i'd like to see our public school system be flexible enough to fit and provide options to families who want to do home schooling because most home school parents i know, they'd like to have their children involved in some of the public school activities -- >> that's what i was just talking to the superintendent about. >> but they don't fit into it very easily. and i would like to see in the future our public schools open all the time, all day, all year. and encourage home schooling and provide options that home schooling parents can choose. because i think kids are better off usually, and this is every family's decision. if they have both options. because they have the option of being with other children and if they have the advantage of having parents deeply involved. there's nothing any better for a child than to have parents deeply involved in their education. i mean, a family is the first teacher, was my first teacher.

that's how i learned to read from my mother. and i think that's very important. in 2000 i testified before the new hampshire state board of education last march, a year ago, and said that if i were the governor of tennessee still and i were offered the goals 2000 money i wouldn't take it. because it has too many rules on it. and that plus the other federal laws that have been passed in the last couple of years totally changed the idea that president bush had and that i had when i was education secretary, which is we need to place a higher value on education, we need to have a national movement to make it better, we need to give parents more choices of schools. they took that and turned it into a federal program. and it's just as different from what we envision as night and day. so i'm opposed to goals 2000. >> okay. that's good. >> we've got some exotic meaning. back in '78 people weren't so much into meanings as they are

today. >> i'm walking aacross new hampshire. >> where are you from? >> from manchester. >> manchester. may i give you that? >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> have a good day. >> all right. >> can i come in? my name's lamar alexander. >> i've seen you on television. >> oh, you have? then i'm making a little progress. >> you are. >> what is your name? >> mrs. kaufman. diana kaufman. >> mrs. kaufman. >> good luck to you. >> thank you. >> not in this heat. >> it's not so bad. >> it's not so bad? >> well, i did this in tennessee. >> it's the humidity that gets to you. >> that's right. in tennessee i did it. and i ended my walk 17 years ago. it was 106 degrees. >> lots of luck. >> and i was wearing this shirt.

see, this is a lot cooler. >> they'd be mopping me up in a sponge. >> you're still here. you sell moccasins? >> all indian. all authentic indian. >> all authentic indian. >> whatever you see here is all authentic. different tribes. >> from tribes in this area? >> no. all out west. all over the place. north carolina, the cherokees, south carolina. >> that's interesting. i'm from the mountain -- i'm from the great smokey mountains, which is the cherokee country. cherokee territory. >> yeah. we get stuff from all over. >> may i leave you one? >> thank you. 50 years. >> you've been here 50 years? >> the place has been here 53 years. >> how long have you been here? >> 27 years. we're newcomers. >> up here that's probably true. >> yes. >> you have to be here 25 years before you're a veteran. >> yeah. before you're accepted. >> thank you for letting me come by. >> lots of luck.

>> good luck to you. >> thank you. bye-bye. have a good day. keep cool. >> all right. >> i was born and bred in springfield, tennessee. but i'm a transplant up here. >> what's your name? >> connie jones. i used to be connie gregg. >> nice to meet you. >> i still have smi shirt like that. >> you have one like it? >> i certainly do. you wore it when you walked across tennessee. >> that's wonderful. >> and my husband and i are both thrilled that you're running. >> thank you. where do you live? >> live in sun cook, just a few miles up the road. >> i know exactly where that is. we had lunch there yesterday. had our van down. >> i missed you yesterday. but when i was going back i saw you and i said i've got to stop. these are my grandchildren. this is sarah and jenny. >> hi, sarah and jenny. may i give you something? >> you certainly may. >> i was just thinking -- >> 17 days. i thought that -- 17 years since

i stopped to walk in memphis. >> it's been a long time. >> when did you come up? >> i've been in new hampshire now for eight years. everybody down home says my accent's gone. >> up here what do they think? >> they think i'm just one of those crazy southerners. >> well, i'm so glad to see you. >> it's a pleasure to meet you again. >> springfield's changing. >> it certainly is. i was there last week. my father passed away. >> i'm sorry. >> and i was there last week. it's wonderful to go home to tennessee. >> there's a lot about new hampshire that's like tennessee. >> it is. it certainly is. >> just a small town. >> and i love your stand on education. >> thank you. >> very much. >> thank you. >> my husband is deaf, and he works for the independent living foundation in concord. >> oh, he does? >> and he's very much right along the lines you are. >> well, that's good. >> especially with education. since we have grandchildren now

and it's not just my children i'm educating anymore. >> my cousin is in charge of the tennessee school for the deaf in knoxville, which is very important. please give him my best. >> i certainly will. >> thank you for stopping and saying hello. it's fun to see somebody who remembers that walk. >> oh, yeah, i remember that walk. >> i ran into a young couple and she didn't remember very well because she was about 6. she was from dyersburg. you were 7 or 8. >> pleasure to see you. >> thank you. your grandchildren are pretty. >> thank you. >> i bet they're a lot of fun for you. >> they certainly are. >> bye, girls. >> bye. >> hi, stephie. heiss to see you again. >> how's the walk going? >> it's been fine. >> can we get a little standby with you? >> sure. >> dan? chuck. testing, testing. day two of the walk.

how's it going, governor? >> good. it's growing terrific. beautiful weather. everybody's worried about my shirt. they think it's wool. but i tell them it's cotton. >> you're probably used to this from tennessee. >> the day i walked across tennessee the day i stopped was 17 years ago yesterday, and it was 106 degrees. i'm used to this. this is a wonderful way to get to know people. >> has there been a highlight so far? >> the highlight's been the people. i mean, everybody's been polite. i didn't expect anything different. people talk to me, tell me what they're worried about, jobs, getting washington off their back. education comes up a lot. maybe because i was involved in it. but people think about their children, they think about their future, they think about education. >> any quizzical looks from folks wondering who's this guy with the red and black shirt on? >> well, one lady looked at me for a long time and she said, i thought my cows were out on the highway. she saw this gang coming along, and then she realized what was going on. surprising number of people realize what i'm doing now. i've gotten a lot more honks today, the second day of the

walk, than i did yesterday. i wave at people and they wave back. so maybe people are catching on to what i'm doing. >> how long will this stretch of the walk last for you? will you be here a couple of days? >> i'll be here until saturday. i'm walking from concord to manchester, spending night with people along the way. then i'll be coming back in a couple of weeks and doing the next 15 or 20 miles. i'm going to spread it out all the way till next november and i'm going to save the last two or three days to right before the new hampshire primary. so i may need a snow plow to do the last little bit. >> what kind of shoes do you have got on there? >> well, i've got dexter boots. and in fact, there's a dexter outlet store right down here. they're made in maine. and they work pretty well. i've only got one little blister so far. >> so far so good. thanks very much, governor. >> thank you. good to see you.

>> hello. i'm running for president. i'm walking across new hampshire. lamar alexander. nice to see you. >> yeah. how are you doing? >> thanks for stopping. good to see you.

>> hi there. well, thanks. lamar alexander. >> kevin diego from boston. >> hello, kevin. what are you doing up here, buying your shoes? >> well, my wife's family's got a place up the street. >> that's great. >> stopping in dexter. it's a routine of ours every summer. >> i've got their boots on. >> oh. >> i'll go in and tell them that i'm giving them a little endorsement. >> fantastic. best of luck to you. >> thank you. take care. i'll say hello to your wife if i may. lamar alexander. >> my wife mary ellen. >> mary ellen. >> nice to meet you. >> hope you have a good stay in new hampshire. >> we will. good luck. >> we'll enjoy ourselves. thank you. >> thank you. >> where are we going to do that? right here? okay. >> ken's waiting for you.

>> here we go. thank you, ken. i think this will be a good -- i'll come back here tomorrow. >> early or late? >> i'll be here early. i'm about 30 minutes behind. so i've got to catch up a little time tomorrow. when you're walking, it's hard to catch up. the key to this is i come back to the same place. and then i'll walk the next six or eight miles. then i come back to the same place. everybody will understand i'm actually doing it. okay. [ applause ] you guys are pretty -- even the media's pretty good walkers. i'm impressed.

during campaign 2016, c-span takes you on the road to the white house as we follow the candidates on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span.org. >> each week until the 2016 election, "road to the white house rewind" brings you archival coverage of prmt rac . presidential races. next a look at the 2004 campaign and a con-session speech by democrat howard dean on the night of the iowa caucuses. it's best known for what came to be called the dean scream. a month earlier the former vermont governor was widely considered the front-runner for the democratic nomination. but his lead dwindled as the caucuses approached. and he finished third behind john kerry and john edwards. mr. dean dropped out of the race a few weeks later while senator kerry went on to win the party's nomination before losing the general electiono